:-.-:Ok, now this is getting a little out of hand.
HappyNisa said:
oh can tell you if your rp is a direct one? I now figured I can't handle direct ones >.> I get utterly annoyed by this all if it doesnt go according to the owners plan. I can't stick to a plan I don't know anything about TT___TT
It's hard to tell between direct and loose, because intros often look like they're loose sometimes. I suppose the best way to tell is the GM's reaction if you decide to drift around the plot via sub-plots, instead of absolute focus on the actual one.
For some who make it, that's the thrill, that you don't know what's going to happen, giving you a suspence, similar reason to why we watch horror films. The creator of the RP generally has the right to be subtle about the plot, and often subtlety works well.
HappyNisa said:
But yeah of course it's impossible for him to be in here 24/7 ! That's why i think it's a problem to ask premission for every single thing we come up with.
Every single thing? Not quite. Things that might affect the plot majorly, Quite.
HappyNisa said:
I was nice enough to react as to what happened that we skippped describing the sewers and just said that we'd went outside (oh yeah and others just jump out to be in the city and all and we bother to get some transportation? but that's all okay?) You see I really don't know what you expect from us? I only hear complains when something goes wrong but things are bound to go wrong right? you don't control our chara's so yeah *sigh* You have to tell us SOME WAY not perse by telling the whole idea but you know a little hint or so would help?
This I actually agree with. As I said, You can never expect RPs of Direct-plot to go entirely as planned. The pure durability won't hold in an RP, where everyone is involved in the story. If you wanted it to be 100% as planned, Fan Fiction would be the better choice. Also, I agree mostly with the last question. Think of the People As fish in the lake. Don't expect them to bite the hook, bait them into it.
HappyNisa said:
I'm very good at rants just not at keeping my rants organized.
Good for you, I know a few people who'd LOVE to share ranting skills with you. :devil:
Shadowwolf said:
I usually go old school. MY direction varies on how the people are acting, so i tried to make it cope. Even if the storyline takes longer.
I think that's the skills of Loose. Maybe Free transforming into Loose.
Lily said:
I know this is way off-topic and all but this is the place where all the RP'ers are... So yeah; my question is, Why dont we have a general discussion thread for RPs? We have one for AGs, GFX && Writing but not one for roleplays D=
We could ask questions there that are not specific to the roleplay itself and we can pitch roleplay ideas to each other.. or even ask how to execute the roleplay ideas D= Most of the time I have a loooot of RP ideas I just dont know how I can put them in a 'roleplay' xD . We can help each other out with character ideas and filling the character sheet, most of the time Im afraid my character will be a mary sue so I usually make her flawed (I cant roleplay male characters >_>) But yes.. that is my suggestion :3
.....That's....Actuallly a good idea. If somebody needs help in RPs simply ask a question and wait for someone to answer.
Lily said:
to stay on topic I will agree with Nisa ... we can't exactly read Chaos' mind and he isnt always online himself to ask whether a post is okay or not. It feels like we need permission to go ahead with our own ideas, and to a certain degree I agree with this. But if roleplayers arent even given the marginal freedom to do what they want it feels too forced :c
Well, you CAN always just drop by a PM and he'll get back to you.
Directs do often feel forced, That's one of it's major downsides, and one of the reasons I don't really do them anymore.
Chaos8ringer said:
._." seems like people got way too much time .___." aaanyway, let's get this started:
You'd be surprised.
Chaos8ringer said:
1. xiga and jest, it's never too late to sign up ;D;D
Ah, Excellent, I still need a recap though. 2 hours isn't enough to read through 20+ pages.
Chaos8ringer said:
so yeah, you know, this RP isn't even meant to move without me being here (as long as people are on a mission or in fight).
Do I detect a sense of Pride?
That could be a problem. If for some reason you're not here everyday, The RP will be fucked, because if it's not meant to move without you, and you're not here, how else will it move? It will come to a halt until you come back.
Chaos8ringer said:
I've already got more than enough trouble with dealing with all the things all of you do from which most is outside the very main idea of the RP.
So you mean to say it's causing you some stress? And by Main Idea do you mean the Concept, or the Plot?
Chaos8ringer said:
Back on Mangafox people were patiently waiting for my posts instead of just hurrying through the RP ._." and we got through the RP without much trouble, even finished it and had a sequel and all of them actually enjoyed it, ask anilover, she was part of that RP.
Perhaps that is so, and may not have been in Mangafox before, but this isn't it. Comparing people on one forum to people on this one isn't the best idea. One of the main reasons being, that I don't believe Nisa cares. The fact is, that was that, this is this.
Chaos8ringer said:
What else..? I got a general idea of how the RP should go and, obviously, it won't go anywhere without my presence.. isn't that logical..?
There's that sense of Pride again.
But the point here is indeed taken, as GM of the RP, he is, in a sense, the story maker. I wouldn't say it would go NOWHERE without your prescence. After all, a backup plan must be made in case something happens. Even if one can't move on with the main plot, can they not at least move on with their own sub-plots while waiting? Rhetorically no. And that's another major downside to Direct RPs.
Chaos8ringer said:
if you want freedom in an RP go ahead and make an RP without a real plot, you'll have as much freedom as you want
I believe my friend Omni, or Diva Elly said it best:
Frederico, a politician goat says:
They are SUPPOSED to put their own thing to it.
Frederico, a politician goat says:
It adds spice, flavour, makes it more fun for the GM with surprises revealed by your fellow RPers
Chaos8ringer said:
in fact, close to none, compared to my other RP's on mangafox where i have real skill- AND level systems
Oh, so you're a GARPer. Not a good idea to again compare Mangafox RPs to these ones, Because Again, I doubt Nisa cares.
Chaos8ringer said:
oh and about that last part in your last post. I can't tell you at all because i dun even know what's gonna happen, since the ideas randomly pop up.
So you have no REAL direct path, No real direct plot from beginning to end? ....Oh, ...Well that means this isn't even Direct RP then, If anything, it's just as loose as I imagine, but then, why would there be a problem in sub-plots of others? You can't make a Direct Plot RP, without a Direct Plot.
Chaos8ringer said:
if you wanna have your own events in the RP, of course you gotta ask me first. I already saw RP's straying from the original plot because of too much "character development".
Define "Character Development" Before I ask what's wrong with that.
Chaos8ringer said:
so of course, by telling me about your ideas i'll try to find a way to connect it to the main story ._." i just want things to make at least some sense, sorry for that o_o"
As I said, PMs, use them. XD
Chaos8ringer said:
if anyone got a problem with my RP'ing style.. i'm not forcing any of you to stay you know, so instead of ranting about, in my eyes, meaningless stuff, just tell me that you got sick of the RP and leave.
Agreed. So far we have had about a page worth of meaningless strike.
A few words from Diva Elly:
Frederico, a politician goat says:
Everyone holds responsibility for following guidelines left by the GM.
Frederico, a politician goat says:
...if they get too out of hand, remind them not to fuck around too much through a PM.
Frederico, a politician goat says:
Control over your own actions is fine and a very good thing.
Frederico, a politician goat says:
But they are indeed, just that.
Frederico, a politician goat says:
Guidelines
Frederico, a politician goat says:
Not rules
Frederico, a politician goat says:
Not commands
Frederico, a politician goat says:
Guidelines